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 Post subject: I'm with JoAnn on the whole driving thing...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:58 pm 
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Even though I've got a few years before I've gotta worry about it...the whole driving scene is one I'm not looking forward to. And I've even got a good story all ready when my son comes asking for the keys...

Sr. year at MAHS I got my driver's license. A tough test, tougher than anything I've ever taken stateside. So, I jumped in my Dad's blue VW Beetle to pick up Dawn and Mrs. Phinney in Perlacher. We headed downtown for something...it might have been Fasching...it was dark, it was rainy and I'm driving downtown, a place I'm pretty familiar with...from the S-Bahn or Bus. So, I turn onto this wide boulevard, must have been six to eight lanes of traffic. I'm tooling along for a few blocks when Mrs. Phinney notices a lot of cars are coming real close to us, going the opposite direction. It's only when I stop for a red light that we figured out I'd been driving north in a southbound lane! :lol: :lol: It's funny now, but I nearly pissed my pants to think I could have gotten into a head on collision on the first day I got my license...with my girlfriend and her mother for crying out loud!! It took a while for Dawn to jump into that VW with me...and I'm pretty sure that's the last time I ever drove Mrs. Phinney anywhere!! :lol:

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JoAnn, I think I see the resemblance because I am comparing the Elias of now to the Katrin of 1982.....looking at some of the old yearbook photos was what triggered the comparison.

At any rate, you have great looking kids!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:32 am 
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The yearbook pictures definately show the resemblence.

Tony, I got my driver's liscense in germany also and went through the two or three driver's test. I believe there is some merit to their madness considering how easy it is stateside.

We had a 15 passenger Ford Van that my sisters and I shared. Driving that massive rig over their was a real joy. I even chaffeured my little sister Mary, her date, and several of their friends up to Dauchau castle for their prom. The autobahn and that van never really went together. I remember getting it to about 80 heading down the road.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:49 am 
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I've got more than a decade before I have to worry about it and it scares the hell out of me a couple times a week when it crosses my mind. The DC area is terrible for driving as an ADULT...sticking one of my kids behind the wheel at 16 and turning them loose on the Beltway is NOT something I'm looking forward to.

SIXTEEN!

Do YOU remember the brilliant judgement YOU had at SIXTEEN?!?!?! I couldn't get my homework done in time because I was down at the Marienplatz listening to street singers...GREAT judgement there, no? (although, frankly, I think I'm better for it...and I can sing more late-sixties folk songs than anyone I know) Thank god I didn't drive at that age. I didn't get my permit until I was back stateside and 18...AND STILL almost killed myself (and Melinda Phillips once as I recall) behind the wheel.

No...my kids are going to hate me, but they're not getting their permit at 16. I'll deal with a couple years of bitching so I can sleep at night. I don't see any reason to give it to them at that age. PLUS, I always thought the early drinking/late driving age combo the Germans had was VERY logical...learn to drink BEFORE you learn to drive...so you know that invincible feeling you have is JUST AN ILLUSION and doesn't mean you can make it over the tracks before the train gets there.

I'm actually trying to figure out how I can move to a European city with a great transport system so they won't WANT a car. The S-bahn and all the other wonderful provisions of the MVV made a car too much trouble in Munich...I'd take that again in a heartbeat.


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I didn't get my license till I was 21 and out of college! I do remember getting a learner's permit (twice) in Munich but my mother would never take me out driving..and if the truth be told, I think I was intimidated by German traffic! Plus, who needed to drive with an SBahn station in your backyard?

We live in a small town in Kentucky but I STILL think 16 is way too young to drive!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:16 pm 
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It is so funny how similarly we all feel about waiting to drive. Grant's and my discussion about Jakup getting his permit was almost a marriage breaker because I don't think anyone under 18 needs a license.... But after I spent some more time reflecting about how I was at 18 versus 16, I realized that I would rather he get his license while we still have some control over him. Once he turns 18, we cannot stop him from making his own decisions about when and where he will drive. At least if we do it now, we can make sure he only gets to do what he is ready for. And Grant is prepared to make him drive on ice, snow, rain, late nights, long trips, you name it...we want him to get LOTS of experience before he is on his own.

Colorado requires drivers to have 50 hours behind the wheel before they can get their license, but we are requiring somewhere between 200 and 300 hours before Jakup gets his license. The statistics support that it is not the age but the amount of time behind the wheel that determines the probability of an accident.

Having said that, I did give a !@#$% about statistics, when it comes to my son, it terrifies me no matter how many hours he spends behind the wheel. I have never met a man who doesn't admit that he is lucky to be alive today, due to some driving incident (eg. Tony's first day!!!).

So, we do the best we can, hope the marriage survives the differences in opinions, and pray our kids make GOOD decisions.

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 Post subject: Well...it was my first day...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:49 am 
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JoAnn82 wrote:
Having said that, I did give a !@#$% about statistics, when it comes to my son, it terrifies me no matter how many hours he spends behind the wheel. I have never met a man who doesn't admit that he is lucky to be alive today, due to some driving incident (eg. Tony's first day!!!).


...never met a man who doesn't admit...

JoAnn, JoAnn, JoAnn...it was my first night driving experience...I got better, really...kinda...maybe...and I never told my parents, and neither did Mrs. Phinney (she was still in shock, I'm sure) to the best of my knowledge.

And all you women out there don't have a similar story?? You're gonna have to talk to my wife about some of her early age driving stories when y'all meet her! :lol: :lol:

But I know what you mean, there's no way our kids should drive before they're 25...but there has to be a few ladies out there who've probably got a near miss or two to share! Which further drives the point home.

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 Post subject: Tony...I have a driving story about John
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:49 pm 
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Tony,
John's going to love me for this story but in the interest of sharing -- I have a recollection of my dear brother John driving in Crystal City or somewhere in VA close to DC and heading down the street the wrong way just to get us to a McDonalds. And since we were stateside and he has already told you he drove in Munich, it wasn't HIS first day with a license. So don't feel bad about your driving story with Dawn and Mrs. Phinney. And there was, of course, the time he had a deer inside his Honda civic on the way to Tech. He has a guardian angel or something because he never got hurt.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:04 am 
Me and deer have a long history. I believe at last count I have had five close encounters with deer.

Who hasn't gone the wrong way once or twice in life?

what the quote? "I came to a fork in the road and I took the road clearly marked ONE WAY"


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Anonymous wrote:
what the quote? "I came to a fork in the road and I took the road clearly marked ONE WAY"


or, perhaps the quote I use when ever I'm accused, whilst driving, by my lovely wife of not having the foggiest idea where I am,
"Not all who wander are lost."


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:12 am 
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Anonymous wrote:
Me and deer have a long history. I believe at last count I have had five close encounters with deer.

Who hasn't gone the wrong way once or twice in life?

what the quote? "I came to a fork in the road and I took the road clearly marked ONE WAY"


Hmm. I think Tony has our senior theme as his quote on this board. Sounds like he definitely took the road less traveled by at least once!!

Bahahahah!

Patty <---perfect driver who NEVER does anything stupid in the car...


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 Post subject: Roads and Cars
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:43 am 
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Oh yeah...less traveled and I survived! To this day though...I turn my lights on when I head into a tunnel, just like question number 234 on the German road test asked.

Do you guys remember the blue VW? It was a 1971 VW semi-automatic, powder blue. And few people may remember this, but I once lovingly sand papered most of the rust spots out on that bad boy (hood, doors, trunk...ok, pretty much everywhere) and administered an awesome paint job...do you know how many cans of baby blue spray paint that took? Ah yes, it took about three weeks for the rust to reappear. But, that car was a babe magnet!! :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:14 pm 
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I keep forgetting to log in for my posts. I would not wish my luck with deer on anyone.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:34 pm 
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John82 wrote:
I keep forgetting to log in for my posts.


You know...I can set up the board so that you HAVE to sign in before you post...is that worth it?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:21 pm 
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Tony, I still don't hear too many of us woman chiming in about our horror stories and driving! Hmmm, might there be a connection...I think in math terms, we would say there is a positive association between the number of crazy driving stories and male drivers!!!

But, I am still open to other people's thinking....

(And I am not talking about whether or not we turn on our headlights when we go into a tunnel...I am talking "lucky to be alive" stories!)

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